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Post by Anne on Sept 7, 2007 10:50:17 GMT -5
LOL Shoesy !!! Well, although getting tattoed is a definite a "no way" matter for me (much to my children despair - God knows what they will be doing when they are of age : , I am still very much willing to hop onto the TGV to Paris and keep you company while you guys are lining up to get your bottoms decorated (I guess some wine would be welcome here to alleviate your pain...) . And then I volunteer to negociate with the police after you all have been arrested for exhibitionism after your bottomless trooping through Parisian streets ;D
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Post by Becky (Berkeleytravelers) on Sept 7, 2007 13:19:37 GMT -5
So Andi - do you give "group" discounts? Or would that make us the "butt" of too many jokes?
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Post by andi on Sept 8, 2007 4:52:02 GMT -5
Oh Becky!!!! The tattoo is free to anyone who has the official site logo, it will however have a www. underneath it. ;D
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Post by andi on Sept 12, 2007 15:39:36 GMT -5
We went to our first French lesson tonight.....It was amazing! ;D For any of you considering it, may I suggest you give it a go. It is not like when we were at school and forced to learn, the lessons are much more relaxed and we actually want to be taught. Everyone was shy and nervous to begin with but by the end we were all laughing and joking and most of us had made a new friend. We learned how to say good evening (Bonsoir), to say Mr, Mrs, or Miss (monsieur, madam or mademoiselle) One student was only 14 so our tutor said that we could call him young man (jeune homme) our names (je m'appelle) and how to ask the other person their name (et vous?), to say pleased to meet you (enchante) and even how to excuse ourselves away (a tout a l'heure) LOL We learned our numbers up to 20 but not in order, we had to do them randomly so that we could pick out each one instantly, not counting up on our fingers. (good idea) We already have 2 pieces of homework to do for next week, I will post them up in a seperate section for you all to have a go at, some of it is easy, some very tough! I will keep you all updated as we go but it was definately great fun!!!!! Homework Part 2write what these French words mean....... adresse age j'habite hotel poste jardin public parking biere the chips oranges tomates paquet de biscuits carte postale shampooing train metro bus gite camping tente aspirine medecin dentiste hopital angine Sorry my keyboard does not do accents (english only)
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Post by Sarastro on Sept 17, 2007 23:54:00 GMT -5
<<<Sorry my keyboard does not do accents (english only)>>> If you are interested, all keyboards do accents. Here are two suggestions: 1. Copy and paste from the character map (in Windows select Programs, Accessories, then System tools.) 2. Use the keyboard shortcuts (these do not really seem like short cuts but once you get use to them, they may be typed rather quickly), i.e. à (Alt+0224) â (Alt+0226) á (Alt+0255)
ç (Alt+0231)
è (Alt+0232) é (Alt+0233) ê (Alt+0234) ë (Alt+0235)
œ (Alt+0156)
î (Alt+0238)
This should be a rather complete list but if anyone wants to know how to type additional characters, let me know and I'll add it to the list.
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Post by Becky (Berkeleytravelers) on Sept 18, 2007 0:14:27 GMT -5
Thanks, Sarastro!
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Post by Happygoin on Sept 18, 2007 6:14:39 GMT -5
I just printed Sarastro's reply to use as a cheat sheet until I get used to using the accents. Thanks, Sarastro. It was always frustrating for me, wondering if people understood how I was butchering the French language on a given day...
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Post by Penny on Sept 18, 2007 10:26:35 GMT -5
LOL I stand partly corrected if I hold down the right Alt key it works. è (right) 0232 (left)
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Post by Becky (Berkeleytravelers) on Sept 18, 2007 11:45:18 GMT -5
Sarastro, these are great - could you also do the "house" (can't recall the name for it) over an "i" please? Thanks in advance . . .
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Post by Jody on Sept 18, 2007 11:54:31 GMT -5
î î Î Î
small is alt 0238 capital is alt 0206
Hold down the ALT key while typing the numbers
à (0224) â (0226) ç (0231) é (0233) è (0232) ê (0234) ë (0235) î (0238) ï (0239) oe ligature (0156) ô (0244) ù (0249) û (0251)
À (0192) Â (0194) Ç (0199) È (0200) É (0201) Ê (0202) Ë (0203) Î (0206) Ï (0207) OE ligature (0140) Ô (0212) Ù (0217) Û (0219) « (0171) » (0187)
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Post by Becky (Berkeleytravelers) on Sept 18, 2007 12:36:44 GMT -5
Okay, well I don't know what's wrong (I assume these instructions were for typing in Word?) but I get nothing at all when I try to do this. Any thoughts?
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Post by Sarastro on Sept 18, 2007 13:43:15 GMT -5
I have had no problem using these short cuts in Word or within this forum's editing page (remembering of course to hold the "Alt" key until all of the digits are typed).
Something additional to check, if you are using the number set located on the right side of your keyboard, make sure the Number Lock is on and the its corresponding light illuminated on your keyboard.
Alternatively, for those of you using Word and having trouble otherwise, in Word select Insert on the top tool bar, then select Symbol and a small window should appear. Within this small window, scroll to find the characters you need.
Next either copy and paste the character you have selected or use the short cut key (shown in the lower part of the window) to place the special character into your document.
If anyone has problems with using the symbol menu, send me a message and I'll try to trouble shoot it with you.
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Post by Becky (Berkeleytravelers) on Sept 18, 2007 14:06:52 GMT -5
Okay, "numlock" definitely was on, and I held alt down while typing - but it doesn't work in Word documents, or in this box, when I used the numbers at the top of the keyboard (which of course requires also holding down the "shift" key, as that's how one gets numbers). That is how I normally type numbers, so it did not occur to me to do something different. But - now I've played around a bit more, and I found that by using the number pad at the right of the keyboard, it works! Mystery solved! See: à â etc., etc. ;D Thanks all for helping - but now, I have to actually learn which way the accent marks go, etc.!
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Post by Jody on Sept 18, 2007 14:15:29 GMT -5
That is so funny, I've used these codes for years and never noticed they didn't work with the numbers at the top of the keyboard only with the numerical keypad. I always use the keypad anyway so I guess that's why.
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Post by cybee on Sept 18, 2007 14:21:11 GMT -5
à HEY! I just did the same thing (used the number keys to the right , not on the top...and it worked for me aussi!) Hurrah! Merci for this info!
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Post by andi on Sept 18, 2007 16:05:33 GMT -5
à â ç é è.............Yeah!!!! it works, thank you ;D
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Post by Penny on Sept 18, 2007 17:33:32 GMT -5
as I said earlier it works with my right alt key but not left. I've always used the numerical keypad since I took office machines (many years ago) LOL however in typing class teacher would turn off lights and call out numbers for us to learn numbers and symbols on top row of keyboard (this was before computers) Once you learn how to use the numberic keys on right you will never go back to top of keyboard except for symbols such as @ % etc. Tired of trying in figure out another way than Word/insert symbols/ copy paste. However there is many more symbols in Word than just french accents. such as € (from Word insert) using keyboard combination Alt+0128 = €
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Post by Jody on Sept 18, 2007 17:49:55 GMT -5
Yes , I use € (alt 0128) and £ (alt 156) a lot
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Post by Becky (Berkeleytravelers) on Sept 18, 2007 18:06:45 GMT -5
Okay, so the final step for really fast typing would be to program the autocorrect so that, when the words are typed without accents (and they are words that exist only in French - no English version) they will automatically be replaced with the properly accented version . . . . well, winter is coming, so perhaps on a really dreary rainy Sunday afternoon . . . .
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Post by Darcy on Sept 18, 2007 21:34:40 GMT -5
ALT+167 = º as in Mº (Metro station)
also 20º C (a good temp for Paris)
Being the old bean counter that I am, I could never use the number keys at the top of the keyboard.
There are also 3 digit codes that I've been using for a long time: (hold down the ALT key)
à 133 â 131 ç 135 Ç 128 é 130 è 138 ê 136 ë 137 É 144 ô 147 û 150
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