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Post by iank9 on May 20, 2007 12:51:40 GMT -5
Especially for Gittek! ;D
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Post by GitteK on May 20, 2007 13:11:33 GMT -5
How very nice of you !! And from Cahors too - where our queens royal consort, Prince Henri, has his vineyards, Château de Caïx.
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Post by Sarastro on May 20, 2007 15:44:09 GMT -5
If you're going to drink out of the glass, what's the bucket for?
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Post by Happygoin on May 21, 2007 7:20:25 GMT -5
Silly Sarastro, of course, the bucket is for that time after the 3rd or 4th glass of wine when the insane urge to put a hat on occurs.
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Post by andi on May 21, 2007 7:35:24 GMT -5
If it was my third or fourth glass that bucket would be used for something different I can tell you!
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Post by sistereurope on May 21, 2007 7:50:36 GMT -5
I just discovered Cahors on our last trip to Paris - it's now one of my faves...
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Post by Happygoin on May 21, 2007 8:00:12 GMT -5
You and Gitte...lushes....sheesh!
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Post by iank9 on May 21, 2007 10:36:47 GMT -5
Hi Everyone, Gittek: of course before I posted this picture I conducted some intensive, historical research, and was lucky enough to post this picture ;D!!! Sarastro: It could be English binge drinking, it could be the wine at I think 2 euro a bottle, might of been more suited in the bucket!! (actually it is quite an eay drinking, bb, type of wine), but actually it was to keep the bugs away! Best wishes
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Post by GitteK on May 21, 2007 12:19:06 GMT -5
Come on now, the bucket is for spitting out as civilized winetasters do...... Voici notre reine et le prince consort.... OK, to be serious. Could any of you wine-experts start a list with what to look for ? I sometimes go for Pomerol for the red (expensive) and Sancerre for the white - but I admit that is a bit on the barbaric side...... In a winebar like Taverne Henri IV I just let le patron choose for me whatever he pleases, because there you can sample wine by the glass. So, could we start up a "Do and Not-Do" list of wines, e.g. Pomerol 2000: DREAM COME THROUGH Pomerol 2001 : ABSOLUTELY NOT Pomerol 2002 : SO-SO.... etc. maybe with grades, e.g. from 0-5 (0=vinegar, 5=nectar of gods) Maybe, also if you have recommendations for special châteaux to look for, that would be super ! Now there's a challenge for you, laddies !
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Post by Becky (Berkeleytravelers) on May 21, 2007 12:44:34 GMT -5
I think this is a great idea -- I don't know if any of us are so serious that we would come to blows about differences of opinion, but I'd love to hear what others think about different types/vintages. Personally, I'm not much for white wine (but I love champagne - anyone for Veuve Cliquot Grande Dame rose?). My top favorite red probably would be the Chateau Figeac (a St Emilion) or Chateau Pavie, in any of the many excellent vintages (which most of them seem to be). If I'm choosing wine and don't really know much about what I'm seeing, I tend to always go for a premier cru St Emilion, or St Julien, or St Estephe from a year that's generally regarded as good -- there are a surprising number in those parameters that are not super expensive. But I want to expand my horizons -- so, since I know that I like these, does anyone have suggestions for others to try?
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Post by GitteK on May 21, 2007 12:48:35 GMT -5
becky - those wines also sound expensive. Are we talking above 25 euro pr. bottle ? I have tasted St. Julien - and of course some different St.Emilion, which in DK is considered the "fine" bourgeois wine for e.g. Christmas evening. Are there any special years you go for ? Also: How about Bourgogne, Beaujolais and all those wines in the "slimline" bottles (not the broad-shoulder bottles) ...... OMG, am I a wine-dinosaur or what I have once received a Fleurie as a gift and was told to drink it cellar-cold. THAT was out-of-this-world fantastic. So (I forgot to mention it) - I also order Fleurie, but the restaurants seldomly take care to serve it at the proper temperature (that is = NOT living-room warm)
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Post by sistereurope on May 21, 2007 13:09:48 GMT -5
I am just REALLY learning about wines - I've got the California wine thing down ok (having just returned from a trip to wine country!)...but there's SO much more to learn about French wines!
So I look forward to learning a few things from others. I do know enough to say that I agree, Becky, Veuve Cliquot is my favorite champagne, although I've never had the rose. My favorite French wines so far are a Chateauneuf-du-pape (and the similar but cheaper Gigondas) for red and a Meursault for white...but I couldn't begin to tell you the vintage, etc.!!! I also like some of the southern wines. Maybe soon I'll be spouting off dates and houses. I can say, Gitte, that it can be frustrating to try to get good French wine here in the states. In our experience, a lot of French wine that's sold here isn't that good and can be way over-priced.
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Post by GitteK on May 21, 2007 13:17:12 GMT -5
Gigondas - yep, that's a good one too. I bought one at my local grocers' some time ago (about 70 dkk = 9 euro) - but very strong on the alcohol side, about 13,5% You see - we really DO need some sort of wine index on this blogspot !!!! Hey, guys - this is a man's job, same as tending the Weber grill !!!!
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Post by Penny on May 21, 2007 14:15:11 GMT -5
I know this is a Paris forum but had to respond to sistereurope: if you like white then this is excellant Murphy-Goode Fume Blanc (Sonoma), very reasonably priced and is recommended (whatever is the right word) by one of the top US chef's.
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Post by Penny on May 21, 2007 14:18:20 GMT -5
I cannot see for sure but I think the bucket has a candle in it. Maybe it's for warming a glass for liqueur. and by the 3rd glass I'd be drinking out of the bottle (LOL)
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Post by sistereurope on May 21, 2007 14:39:18 GMT -5
Yes Penny, Sonoma has some great wines (that's where we stayed). I really do want to learn more about French wines, especially before I go back to Paris. I think that my next trip will be without my husband, so I want to be able to order wine with authority!!!
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Post by Penny on May 21, 2007 15:03:10 GMT -5
I recently found a book at the library on wines. I checked it out to see if it might make a good present for my kiddo. (who is much more knowledgable on wine than me). Title, a taste for wine, author Vincent Gasnier, almost 200 pages just on foreign wines. over 300 pages total, and a very good price $20. I'm sure you have a larger library system than here so you might check and see if they have the book. or go to amazon.com and search by his name. brought back 9 books of his on drinks and wines. very reasonable prices.
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Post by Becky (Berkeleytravelers) on May 21, 2007 15:09:24 GMT -5
For those in the US, try Kermit Lynch in Berkeley (their web site is www.kermitlynch.com, and they also have a very nice mailer - often some short pieces by writers like Jim Harrison, and lots of very personal opinions about wine). They specialize in Burgundy, and Kermit makes frequent trips to taste wines that normally would not be imported so as to find the overlooked gems. Most of his selections are very good prices, and if you are in a state that does not restrict wine shipments you could have them sent. I'm guessing you could get on their mailing list just by calling. That might be a good way to get a line on some good wines that you otherwise would not hear about, that are reasonably priced and available in France (and probably other parts of the EU). About the St Emilion prices, they vary widely (and wouldn't you know, the ones I love most are the ones you might get once a year after winning the lottery ), but some are in the 35-50 range (still not for every day, but maybe for a special occasion like a dinner for good friends). I honestly don't know enough about the years to make a recommendation (my better half has a good mind for those details, and always is along for these types of buying expeditions, so I don't usually try).
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Post by Shoesy on May 21, 2007 15:17:05 GMT -5
I can't seem to understand why everyone likes wine except me.
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Post by robertzimmerman on May 21, 2007 15:20:41 GMT -5
Better yet, you can get on Kermit Lynch's pdf mailing list just by asking. I will buy anything he imports.
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