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Post by sistereurope on Dec 4, 2007 10:45:28 GMT -5
What a great idea! I hope it's ok that I go first! I like this picture, especially the "shadowy tour" in the background...but I also think that perhaps the composition could have been better. I'm asking the experts - how would you have changed this shot to make it really memorable? Or do you think it's ok as is?!  |
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Post by GitteK on Dec 4, 2007 10:49:20 GMT -5
At least it's vertical ! Randy always complains that we only take horizontal pics.......
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Post by Becky (Berkeleytravelers) on Dec 4, 2007 11:20:32 GMT -5
Wow, good question because I love the subject matter (especially the ET in fog in the background). I'll be interested in the answer! (I suppose that zapping the pesky pedestrians is not an allowed solution!)
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Post by Jody on Dec 4, 2007 11:48:54 GMT -5
And it's straight!!! Mine are always lop-sided.
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Post by sistereurope on Dec 4, 2007 12:00:53 GMT -5
Well Demarais, notice that this was taken during the day...in other words, BEFORE my copious wine consumption could interfere with my sense of symmetry ;D
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Post by Becky (Berkeleytravelers) on Dec 4, 2007 12:18:39 GMT -5
LOL, sis - I don't get the connection  |
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Post by Penny on Dec 4, 2007 12:23:17 GMT -5
LOL I just put my hand over the pedestrians.
But great shot!
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Post by sistereurope on Dec 4, 2007 12:42:09 GMT -5
Becky,
That could be a category in and of itself...
"Paris Pictures: Before and After the Bordeaux!" ;D
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Post by rssilverandlight on Dec 4, 2007 13:55:49 GMT -5
Wow ! what a nice response ! sis - it a really good photograph. Sometimes you just have to wait for the tourists to get out of the way if you have the time (I once waited 45 minutes for the tourists to get out of the way at the Roman Baths in Bath, England) OR tilt your camera slightly up to remove the worst of it OR you can remove them with photoshop later (yes Gitte, that is fair to do). On the right side either include the full lamp or shift the camera to remove it entirely. If you have a zoom lens, you could zoom in to get ride of some of the barriers and the bus on the left. The way to keep the image straight (as you have) is to look at the side of your viewfinder and line it up just before you push the button. Gitte - "it's too many horizontals" NOT only horizontals   Sis - "Paris Pictures Before and After the Bordeaux" - what a hoot !  ;D |
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Post by sistereurope on Dec 4, 2007 14:05:49 GMT -5
WooHoo, thanks Randy!
See, I didn't even pay attention to the lamp post on the right - and you are so correct that it would have made a much better shot to slightly shift position so that it was either in full view or not there at all. Ditto on the crowd...and I would never have the patience to wait 45 minutes for a shot!
(All good reasons why YOU are the professional and I'm not, n'est ce pas?! ;D )
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Post by rssilverandlight on Dec 4, 2007 14:08:00 GMT -5
To all who may post photographs, please keep in mind that these are just my comments based on my own experience for the past 38 years. My style in teaching is to focus (no pun intended) on the strengths in your work and share some ideas about how the images may be improved. You can see some of my B&W work in Paris at: rssilverandlight.com For color from my trip to Paris in early October, send my your email address in a PM and I will send the file to you. sis- quite a coincidence. I have a photograph very similar to to yours including the fog/haze, whatever it is); send your email address in a PM and I will forward it to you. Gitte - see what you started. Thanks Truffaut |
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Post by GitteK on Dec 4, 2007 14:41:43 GMT -5
sis ! I found out how to DO IT !!! (no no, not the XXX-thing........ I found out that long ago and have since forgotten most of it  ). Sorry sorry sorry to hi-jack your pic, but I simply HAD to try this !!  The two small lampposts in the bottom are now equally far away from the edges - and I have removed the bus and the metal-fences in the lower end of the pic. When the format gets slimmer, the vertical effect gets more dramatic - and makes the objects look even taller. Or.......?? 
(The worst thing about having invited randy to do this is that he never compromises with his professional standards, so expect flogging, ladies......... he so reminds me of my pianoteacher, a gentle elderly lady who shows no mercy in ruthlessly shredding my feeble attempts to pieces each Monday night.) |
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Post by rssilverandlight on Dec 4, 2007 14:51:41 GMT -5
gitte - never taught piano on Monday night !  |
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Post by rssilverandlight on Dec 4, 2007 14:57:27 GMT -5
Gitte - The hijacked photograph of sistereurope's Verticals in Paris shows the cropping technique I mentioned whether done by a shift in the camera, zooming in or in photoshop. Do they say "Good Show" in Denmark ? ps. if there is any flogging it will be gentle. |
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Post by sistereurope on Dec 4, 2007 15:17:50 GMT -5
Gitte - many exalts to you for improving my picture!
Now...if I post a close up of my face, can you do something about these wrinkles?!?
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Post by rssilverandlight on Dec 4, 2007 17:09:58 GMT -5
I don't know if gitte can help but if you REALLY need help there is always photoshop. |
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Post by rssilverandlight on Dec 5, 2007 5:35:42 GMT -5
If you are even slightly considering the possibility of buying a new digital camera, may I recommend the following this website: http://www.dpreview:com It is the best site for information for each model line, whether in by a subcompact, compact all the way up to professional models. You might check out Nikon and Canon first. |
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Post by andi on Dec 5, 2007 17:48:34 GMT -5
I love this picture! It does look better with the bus and barriers removed, however, love them or loathe them the cars and pedestrians give the image a sense of movement and madness, at the same time the 3 vertical structures give me a sense of rigidity and calm.
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Post by GitteK on Dec 6, 2007 1:23:59 GMT -5
andi - and that's what its all about IMO. Making up your mind about: what story do I want to tell with my photograph. What is the impression I want to convey to others ? The original pic did both: the chaos and the aloof beauty - only if sister had wanted to tell a story about the contrasts, this message could have been more in focus.
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Post by rssilverandlight on Dec 6, 2007 1:34:19 GMT -5
Andi - Some might say grandeur about the verticals and distracting about the bus, cars, barriers and people. Like my father-in-law used to say: "one man's weed is another man's wildflower A neat way to deal with vehicles in motion is as follows: Let's say your correct exposure for the ISO and amount of light is 1/125 at f/5.6. The shutter speed (1/125) at the distance from the camera to the vehicles will freeze the motion of the vehicles. 1/60 at f/8 is the same correct exposure as 1/125 at f/5.6 1/30 at f/11 1/15 at f/16 1/8 at f/22 is the same correct exposure as 1/125 at 5.6. You have kept the same exposure but slowed the shutter speed down to have the vehicles be a blur. Caveat: use a tripod to avoid camera motion and definitely do it before the Bordeaux. After all, it's the vehicles we want to have blurred, not you ! ;D |
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